I was nervous to post my little post about my friend G. I got a lot of people commenting on it, and a lot of people got kicked into moderation status either because they’d never commented before, or because they were commenting with a new configuration — new ip address, or nickname, or email address. Each time I logged in and saw that I had comments in for moderation my heart skipped a few beats. I do not live on conflict. In fact, in my ideal world everyone would be polite and kind and considerate and there would never be any conflicts ever.
I’m pretty close to that ideal: I live in Utah where everyone stuffs conflicts and arguments down and just simmer until they explode. So, you know, we’re almost there. I know that the Utah culture of “smile and try to get along - at least on the surface” drives people from more direct cultures nuts, but there you have it. I am a child of my environment.
I’ve had trolls before. I’ve had legitimate trolls whose only purpose was to be as vituperatively offensive as possible. I’ve had trolls who don’t get me or where I’m coming from, and who don’t want to get me because I’m WRONG WRONG WRONG and they’re here to show me what’s right. I’ve had trolls who really were genuinely angry and who had a legitimate point but an incredibly hurtful way of making it. And I’ve had trolls who are normally decent people stung into hurtful speech for some reason. I generally let the last two types of people comment. Because I allow people to disagree with me, and I allow people who’ve been hurt by me (intentionally or not) express that hurt. But after a few run-ins with the first two types of trolls, I don’t let them comment anymore. Their comments get deleted, because I refuse to let people talk to me like that in my own space. So, like I was saying, I was worried that I was going to get homophobic trolls. And, eventually, I did get one. I’ve decided to let this comment serve as an example of my comment policy and which comments will be getting deleted.
So, this person left the following comment on my post:
Wow, Really? What would’ve been best for the child is that he hadn’t have been brought into such a sad situation. This is why same sex couples shouldn’t have children and why heterosexuals shouldn’t get divorced. The kids are always the ones who suffer. Poor G??? Poor O!!!
Now, on one hand, I was tempted to let it through. Because in the middle of it is a nugget of truth. The truth is that the true victim of this situation is O, not G. My sympathy is all with G, because I see myself in her. But my outrage (that I was trying, albeit not completely successfully) is for O. No child should have a parent (or any loving, caring, respectful person to whom they’re bonded) forcibly taken from their lives. I worry about what this will do to him. I worry about his attachment to future caregivers. I worry about his ability to love without fear. And I worry for his relationship with J. I believe she’s shooting herself in the heart with this move and that her relationship with O will be the more constrained and limited because of the limits she’s placed on his ability to express love and the reactionary controls she’s exercising over him. So yes, Homophobic Reactionary Troll, you have a smidgen of a point.
But you moved into troll territory when you not only state that same-sex couples shouldn’t have kids* but that O’s real problem is that he was born to those women at all. Because (as I know the “reasoning” of this “argument” goes) this result is inevitable when two women decide to create a family. But for every case like this there are multitudes of cases that no one hears about because everyone behaves like adults and works everything out with grace and love. And in states where joint adoption and co-parent adoptions are allowed, it is far more likely that such workings-out take place, because there is a legal structure in place to encourage and enforce it. The problem isn’t that O (and, by extension, my daughter, and the children of my friends and most of the readers of this blog) was born to same-sex couples, the problem is that O was born in a culture that doesn’t value him, his relationships, the relationships of those around him, and the safety and security of his family and relations. He was born in the context of a larger society who worships at the altar of connectivity while simultaneously severing all ties and responsibilities to anyone and anything who differs (if you are connected to nothing that is different than you, then to what are you actually connected? Are you not just one bloated entity?) And when his parents (and me, and my wife, and a majority of the readers of this blog) choose to love and create relationships in the face of such appalling hypocrisy and opposition — in an attempt to bring more love into this word — the vulnerable are battered, beaten down, punished. And then, like all punished, are blamed for their condition and the condition of those in their care, and all other “collateral damages”.
So that, dear readers, is an example of a comment that was deleted, and why.
As an example of a comment that disagreed with something I said, and which I strongly disagree with in turn, but is not a flame and is not from a troll, I submit this comment which did not get deleted:
…That being said, I refuse to demonize J. I don’t know enough about her side of the story td to pass judgement on her. In the public’s eye all lawyers have a taint of fire and brimstone about them, unless they work for next to nothing defending the habitat of some cute and fluffy animal from being bulldozed by greedy developers.
There are a number of things I disagree with here, and I’m not going to get into them now, and I’m not posting this so that a bunch of you can leave comments on this post about how that comment is wrong, but rather to show that commenters are allowed to post things that disagree with me, or even flat out call me wrong. As long as it’s not insulting to anyone involved in the discussion, it gets through. Just so we’re clear on that.
*and let’s not even go into the whole no het couples should divorce… because, I mean, really? REALLY? Never? So a woman who’s being beaten, and whose kids are being beaten and/or sexually abused should stay with her husband because, you know, it’s better for the kids than divorce?!